Lollipop People, Sidewalks, and Safety

This idea came out of our ongoing sidewalk and bridge conversation (see the main thread here, but I thought it deserved its own space. This isn’t an either/or choice between topics — both discussions can easily co-exist and may well both warrant being implemented.

At our last Council meeting my good friend and fellow Council member @David.Atton gave us all a laugh when he suggested “lollipop people” to help kids cross the street. For those of us who were scratching our heads, that’s the English term for what we call crossing guards here in the U.S. (officially “School Crossing Patrol” in the UK, but commonly called lollipop men, ladies, or people). David keeps us cultured!

Crossing guards do fit the spirit of Gates Mills. We love to engage with people and value that personal touch in our community. Having a friendly face on the corner is in many ways very “us.”

The idea deserves real conversation. Some have suggested that crossing guards would be cheaper than the sidewalk and bridge project (which, as a reminder, is covered by grants). But once you dig into the logistics, it gets complicated:

  • Who pays the crossing guard?
  • Who manages their schedule?
  • What happens on vacation days or sick days?
  • Do they get health care and insurance?
  • What about turnover, training, or liability if something goes wrong?

And the biggest question: sidewalks are a one-time infrastructure expense, and in this case the grants cover them. A crossing guard is essentially a person on payroll forever.

What does a crossing guard actually cost?

On paper the pay looks modest: about $16–$19 per hour, usually 4 hours a day for the 180 school days (what about summer?), or around $12,000 a year. But when you add in payroll taxes, substitutes for sick or vacation days, insurance, and basic management, the real annual cost works out closer to $15,000 – $19,000 per guard.

Cost Comparison

Option 5 Years 10 Years Notes
Crossing Guard (1) $75,000 – $95,000 $150,000 – $190,000 Ongoing payroll, management required
Sidewalk & Bridge (grants) One-time project Still one-time Covered by grants, no ongoing payroll

Are crossing guards even common anymore?

From what I’ve seen, they’re increasingly rare. Many communities have moved away from the model due to cost, staffing difficulties, and liability. I honestly can’t remember the last time I saw one in action (Maybe Shaker Heights?). Does anyone have statistics or local experience to share?


David, I’d love to hear your thoughts on this and invite you to kick off a friendly discourse here on the forum. Do “lollipop people” make sense for Gates Mills, or is long-term infrastructure the better path?

Somebody has to jump start this forum, and since you brought up the “lollipop people” idea, I can’t think of a better person to get this discussion rolling. Grab your lollipop sign :stop_sign::lollipop::children_crossing: and wave us across into the conversation — thanks in advance for lending your voice, I know the community will value your perspective.

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I am sure we will find people that volunteer so that you do not have to pay anybody that is not an argument.

How about parents and grandparents of kids in school!!

That’s what other schools do.

And actually the kids will NOT use the bridge unless you put up railings with wire… kids are kids…

Insurance: have them sign a waiver

The challenge with relying on volunteers as the primary safety measure is consistency. My experience with non-profits has taught me that volunteer programs require backup plans, training, liability coverage, and most importantly - people who can commit to showing up every single day in all weather conditions. If we build our safety infrastructure around volunteers and they can’t make it one morning (sick kid, car trouble, zero-degree weather), we’re back to kids walking an unsafe route.

I say this as someone who definitely does not want to be the person standing out there with a lollipop sign in a snowstorm!

Infrastructure like sidewalks and bridges works 24/7, doesn’t call in sick, and doesn’t require ongoing recruitment. That’s why other schools have moved away from the crossing guard model - it’s hard to sustain.

That said, crossing guards in addition to safe infrastructure? That could be wonderful. Parents and grandparents volunteering to help guide kids along an already-safe path would be fantastic community building.

My two cents: as a daily runner, I am a big fan of sidewalks. I run around Gates Mills every single day and River Road is beautiful, but the curves and limited sight distance make it more dangerous in places. Not many of our roads have much of a shoulder (and sometimes what little shoulder there is is covered in poison ivy or tall weeds). Yes please to a sidewalk.

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I was informed by someone that Chagrin Falls does indeed have a very active volunteer crossing guard program through their Safe Routes initiative, and it’s been quite successful. They have crossing guards who’ve become fixtures in the village downtown and at busy intersections. That kind of community engagement is exactly what would be welcome in Gates Mills and fit perfectly with our village character.

That said, I’d love to see us pursue a volunteer program like that in addition to other safety measures that don’t put the onus of responsibility solely on volunteers.

Given that only 49 or so Students in that school are Gates Mills students we are providing service for other people’s children…

So maybe talk about the real reason you want to do that.

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I’m not sure what you mean. I just thought it was a fun topic!

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I agree. They’d be a welcome “personality addition” to our community, but we need 24/7.

Given that only 49 or so Students in that school are Gates Mills students we are providing service for other people’s children…

So maybe talk about the real reason you want to do that.

The animosity towards the elementary school in the village is incredible. What’s wrong about providing service to children who go to our elementary? Is there anything more important? This community has a reputation for an aging, self-enclosed culture, and posts like this do not help.

We need to have a broader, more civil vision for the future. Otherwise Gates Mills will be a community where affluent older people build walls for themselves.

along this idea, sorta; regarding Gates Mills street walkers. Out they are in their chic black tights and t-shirts in summer and black puffers in winter. They blend in with the sun spattered shade or snow and black roads, oblivious to the hazards they cause. One wonders, do these people have any common sense? I do not want a new hood ornament. Then there are the bike bros riding three abreast, heaven forbid you try to pass, spit on the windshield is my reward. Where is Sgt. Savage when I need him?!

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just curious, Igor, what brought you to choose Gates Mills as your home?

A rather personal question for a public forum - why do you ask?

Seems like you want to change the character of this village to something more akin to Cleveland Heights

That’s a bit of a stretch, with all due respect. An elementary school will make Gates Mills fail?

Communities that won’t build schools will be left with nothing but cemeteries.

Please don’t project that people born outside of Gates Mills pose a threat. Inclusion and diversity are a strength, not something to fear.

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